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• View topic - Zero-velocity exhaust
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Re: Zero-velocity exhaust

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:38 am
by lavalamp
Interesting that the phase 1 burnout occured higher and faster than you anticipated, but by the time it got to 3.2 km it was travelling significantly slower than predicted. From that it seems as though thrust was much higher than anticipated, but so was drag.

Since you ignite phase 2 at 3200m, I assume the fairly long coast period is by design, what's the rationale there? For instance, would it not perform better if the coast was much shorter, but the phase 1 thrust were lower? Gravity drag would be a bit higher, but it seems as though it's the aero drag killing you.

Re: Zero-velocity exhaust

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:13 am
by rick m
Preliminary analysis shows the vehicle experienced roll pitch coupling causing the increased drag and vehicle break up. We are looking at balance issues with placement of the avionics. We were fortunate to recover the data intact after the avionics experienced free fall when the chutes ripped off during breakup.

I have continued to improve the propellant with each new test thus increasing thrust and performance of the motor. This was our first completely successful motor test in a flight.

The reason for the delay between first and second motor firing is to coast through the denser lower atmosphere and fire the forward motor later when higher up. Our sim shows this gains the highest altitude for our vehicle/propellant. Since the Isp of sugar is low, we have to design for the maximum weight reduction that puts us on the cutting edge of performance.

Re: Zero-velocity exhaust

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:08 pm
by pauldear

Re: Zero-velocity exhaust

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:04 pm
by lavalamp
In a light gas gun it's done by getting a light gas very hot, the lighter and hotter the better, this results in a higher speed of sound.

In a combusion light gas gun, I believe they compromise on the mass (they include some oxygen!), which allows them to put even more energy into it and get a still higher speed of sound.

There is another type of gun that relies on the projectile compressing a combustible mixture of gasses between the barrel of the gun and itself and riding the pressure wave, essentially like an aircraft engine.

Re: Zero-velocity exhaust

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:43 pm
by SANEAlex